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We haven’t reviewed too many coaches with slides. The reason is simple: we just gravitate toward RVs that would work for us. We move around a lot, put in a lot of miles getting from A to B, and don’t much like to “set up camp”. So there are a lot of times when we wouldn’t want to or just plain couldn’t put a slide out. And just about every floor plan out there with a slide is awful to try to live in with the slide retracted for travel. But every once in a while we come across a floor plan with a slide that is actually a reasonable rig, even with the slide retracted.
So now that you know that, watch this review of the new View / Navion 24D, and you’ll see why we reviewed this smaller Class C RV.
Even though this was at a dealer-only show (you can see dealers and sales people walking in and around the rig while we videotaped it), we made them put the slide in for us so we could show you the coach as you would see it while traveling. We actually liked what we saw! Clearly, the designers at Winnebago had their thinking caps on when they came up with this one. The refrigerator door clears the sofa when the slide is in! You can still reach the back of the galley drawers when the slide is in! You can still walk (easily) to the bathroom when the slide is in! And there’s even a usable daybed on the sofa.
The other thing we really liked about this floor plan is this: Usually, when you find a Murphy Bed floor plan, the Murphy Bed collapses on top of the dinette. This means you can choose to either have the dinette, or the bed, but not both. The Navion 24D arranges things so you never have to make that decision. The bed is completely separate from the dinette. If you’re like Stef and me, one of you gets up earlier and stays up later than the other. With this floor plan, you can get to the dinette and have coffee, work late, or whatever you like.
The final big thing we liked is that Winnebago really paid attention to cold weather camping for this floor plan. The fresh water tank is indoors, where it’s not likely to freeze if you’re using the rig. The grey and black tanks have heating pads on them. And in my crawling around under the motorhome, I was unable to find a single fresh water line outside. I don’t think they’d call it a 4-season rig, but they’ve hit a lot of cold-weather check boxes right there, and we’re glad to see it.
There are other things to like about this one as well. Like, storage, storage, and storage. And some more storage. And there may be other features hidden inside the storage. But you’ll have to watch the video for those.
And you might see some storage.
FANTASTIC reviews! Thank you so much! I’m looking at getting a 2020- either the D or the J. Can you also access the bathroom in the J with the slide closed? I am waffling but it seems that that corner bed will be more comfy AND the J seems t have a 7-8 gallon fresh water capacity advantage. Any thoughts on my thoughts or questions, would be appreciated! Thanks again!
Don’t know about the bathroom/slide access in the J – we haven’t done a detailed review of that one.
Extra fresh water is always a good thing.
Suggest you read our 8 Steps to Selecting Your First RV post. There are some tips there that might help you if you’re not sure which features are more important than others.
We’re also looking at the D and J. Our concern is that the smaller bed in the J is not big enough for 2 adults. Any thoughts or comments on the bed size?
not sure if you covered this in the comments but it would have been great to see the slide in for how it feels while going down the road. good job on the review
Agreed. We do try to show that when we think of it – honestly just didn’t remember this time.
There has been at least one posting of a video showing the slide in on the new 24D View prototype for 2020. It was demonstrated that with the slide in one can only open the refrigerator door part way as it bumps into the opposite facing couch. What the demonstrator failed to do however, was to lift up the seat cuision on the couch to see if that made enough room for the refrigerator doVor to more fully open. This could be important when loading supplies and not wanting to extend the slide. Hopefully someone here will get a chance to see the new 2020 24D View/Navion and report back on this point.
When the Slide is in, there’s plenty of room to walk around.
I am looking to retire in the near future and have always dreamed of full-timing for a few years. One thing that I hadn’t thought about yet is concerning to my plan is the OCCC weight of these MBS class C’s. I only want a MBS, but I recently saw a video comparing the Navion to a Tiffin. The Navion had a much higher OCCC than the Tiffin, which was the one I was leaning towards. You are a Full Timing couple and I have enjoyed watching your videos, so I subscribed to ask, what is the weight that you carry? Between both of you, Fit people, 300 plus gear. What is the total weight of the gear and should I be concerned with the OCCC if its around 750lbs? We’re in the 350 range for 2 of us, plus our gear, which we will be living out of for the next few years. What are your professional opinions on this subject?
I’d be concerned with only 750 pounds to work with.
I can’t see the stickers, but generally, your propane and fresh and waste water needs to come out of that number as well. Think 8 lbs per gallon.
Then the occupants.
Then the gear.
You’ve correctly hit on one of the biggest issues (that nobody talks about) with the Sprinter based class Cs. Many manufacturers build them nearly overweight to start with.
Your comment is appreciated. It is obvious that sales & marketing has more influence than the engineering dept, which is why I can’t purchase a brand new 2019 24-J for $89K, which is a great buy on paper. Sadly, the chassis is under built and by the time you get it loaded for a trip, you are already overloaded.
Our Winnebago View 24D
List 1 – Things We Love
Small and Compact – The rig is small and compact which means it is easy to drive and maneuver, easy to park in campsites, etc. It opens up a whole new set of campgrounds where we can camp and allows us to explore areas that were more awkward in a big rig. Ferry fares should be less expensive due to the shorter length. It also means we spend less time loading and unloading when setting out on a trip or returning home.
Great fuel mileage – Who doesn’t love spending less on fuel!
Onan Diesel Generator – We prefer diesel to LP for a generator simply because we find that filling LP is sometimes a chore with trying to find LP for sale (at a decent price) and especially finding an LP filling qualified employee at work at the time we want to fill.
Cargo Carrying Capacity CCC – The CCC for this motorhome is 1,077 lbs and many rigs of a similar size have much less capacity.
Nice review of the 24D. I have a 24J which we love but if I ever do a trade in I think it would be for a 24D. Thanks for sharing that detailed review.
The FIT crew have just completed an excellent video introducing us to the 2020 24D as it was shown in prototype form at the RV Experience show in Salt Lake City last week.
Notable changes include first of course the all new Mercedes Sprinter chassis with such exciting features as Adaptive Cruise Control and Active Braking Assist (which reduces the stress of driving in congested traffic by in part keeping a safe distance between the RV and the vehicle ahead).
It is several inches shorter due to an all new cab over top with better insulation and a more aerodynamic design – and perhaps added stability when encountering cross winds? Included are now two side windows for the overact bunk, and both have vents that can be opened for cross-ventilation.
The dinette is now U shaped with ottoman extensions as previously seen on the J model. Apart from allowing at least one more person to be seated, it definitely enhances the viewing position for the opposite wall mounted TV.
There is an all new cooktop that allows for both gas and electric heating so one does not have to fire up the gas just to warm a can of soup. The microwave/oven has been repositioned to below the counter rather than up at cabinet level and a built in paper towel rack is now hidden behind the TV.
The Murphy Bed itself it better disguised with its legs all but hidden when up in the couch configuration. Gone are the ceiling rope LED lights replaced by scattered individual ceiling lights. Speaking of lights, when the kitchen drawers are open they light up.
Can’t tell from the video if that odd patch of carpet behind the seats that pet owners didn’t like are still there, but hopefully our hosts can confirm one way or the other. The deep mahogany looking wood adds class though of course that may be just a personal preference. In any event it appears to be complemented by lighter colored seating and flooring – though keep in mind the vehicle shown was a prototype so colors may change.
No word yet on whether a bike rack can be ordered as an option as before, but hopefully will be. A composite toilet is specified for the 24D although the other two views (24J and 24V) get a porcelan ones this year.
I was hoping the above the sink mounted TV could be dropped down to counter level by some type of drop down rod mechanism for after dinner viewing that won’t strain the neck to look upward. (Hint, hint to anyone from Winnebago design.)
Finally, as the Apple spokesmen are oft to say, “One more little thing.” The awning is now incorporated into the roof so that it appears seamless!
Look forward to the FITRV Crew adding other points that I probably missed.
Correcting a few typos. Reference was to a cab over bunk. It is the height of the 2020 Views that are several inches shorter. I already see I left out mentioning the European imported coach door which comes equipped with its own garbage receptacle and the door can also be locked remotely by the key just as the cab doors are able to be so locked.
Adding to prior comments regarding the new 2020 24D View. The interior wood color is actually a dark Maple, and not Mahogany. In any event it contrasts well with the mostly white cabinets and light upholstery. A small point, but the switch for the Murphy Bed is hidden on the opposite side of the wall separating the bath area from the interior.
Apparently the inverter is now 2000 watt rather than 1000. The pair of standard batteries have added power allowing for an additional 25% use allowing off the grid camping to extend by an additional day. Optionally Lithium batteries are now available which will allow for even longer battery usage as well.
Also in rewatching the FITRV video from the RVExperience show, it became apparent that the carpet patches behind the front seats have now in fact been eliminated resulting in a floor fully covered by vinyl.. The couch setbacks are now a single piece rather than the split version that became available on the prior model.
Finally, an added thought with regard to the microwave/oven having been repositioned to below the kitchen counter. This would have to be a positive with regard to moving weight downward to contribute to a better center of gravity.
As to the wood color on the prototype it was actually characterized as “walnut.” Interestingly though the preview information for the 2020 View on Winnebago’s website references different colors for the wood, one almost black and the other a mocha looking color termed macchiato. It may well be that the prototype walnut is in fact macchiato. That said, the almost white vinyl flooring seen on the prototype does not look at all like the much darker floor color on Winnebago’s website.
One other subtle difference is seen in the bathroom where the previously oval sink has been replaced by a rectangular one with apparently more holding capacity.
The most informative, fact-based review I’ve found. You’re engineering background is in evidence!
We’ve narrowed down our search to the 24 series or Via, same chassis, length, etc but seemingly the Via is more spacious. Any chance you’re able to review that unit?
The Via is technically a class A. We’ve never reviewed a Class A.
Not saying it will never happen, but we’d have to find one first!
I just saw this model at an RV show today. It’s absolutely beautiful in person and feels huge with the slide out. The kitchen counter is really big–amazing for such a small rig. After looking through many C’s at the show, I came away with the impression that for me this design is the clear winner.
Thanks so much for your review—it was really helpful! I very much enjoy your videos and appreciate all of the great information that you provide. You guys are awesome!:)
Glad you liked our review (and the 24D)!
Stef got to stay in one of these for a while at GNR, and she would agree with you… its very spacious feeling!
As noted, the kitchen counter is really big and likely even a bigger selling point for the 24D than the drop down Murphy Bed.When I first saw the 23D a couple who were downsizing from a larger motorhome couldn’t get over how the 24D’s counter space was even greater than that in their much larger RV.
I went back a few days later to take a further look at the model only to deduce that they had actually gone ahead and traded their A Class for the 24D View.
I know this veers to a separate topic, but it may be of interest to others that Sprinter has a completely new chassis for 2019 which should find its way into the Winnebago Views and Navions for their 2020 models. One can already Google “Sprinter” to compare the differences and upgrades.
Of even greater import is the fact that for the first time the Mercedes Sprinter is being offered in a gas model for 2019.
It is difficult to imagine that Winnebago won’t take advantage of that option given all the issues RVers are having in some states such as Illinois and Minnesota where the bio diesel levels in the available fuel there exceeds the Sprinter’s diesel engine’s tolerances threatening to void warranties. Winnebago has to be concerned that that trend will likely extend to other environmentally proactive states such as Oregon, Washington and California as time advances.
I haven’t heard much from Winnebago yet about what their plans are with the newer Sprinter models.
A switch to gas would likely require more than a couple model changes, for sure.
Bound to be interesting, at any rate!
Just an update on the new Sprinter chassis coming out for next year. Prices and models have already been posted and it looks like only the diesel Sprinter will be available (at least initially) for order as a chassis. Mercedes is gearing up a U.S. assembly plant as well complete with body and paint shop to actually manufacture the Sprinter line right here in the United States. Initially this may delay availability of the new chassis to RV manufacturers, but once up to capacity there should be an increased supply for RV manufacturers. (Reportedly Amazon already has an order in for 20,000 of the new Sprinter vans.)
Whether we will see the new chassis even being imported into the United State in the interim remains unknown but with all the potential tariff issues that may be the deciding factor in Mercedes just offering its Sprinter chassis made in the USA.
NO! Not fact. Mercedes Sprinter is NOT being offered in a gas model for 2019, says the Sprinter Mercedes Center at 877 762-8267.
Further, neither they nor the Winnebago factory at 800 537-1885 have heard anything about problems regarding bio diesel problems in Illinois, Minnesota or anywhere else.
The coach door will not close and lock properly. This has been “repaired”, but yesterday we could not get the door to lock so locked the lower lock and before we were out of driveway the door opened on its own. 3 dogs were just inside the door. Before repair attempt it was locked with remote and came out next morning and door was open. From the inside the door has to be slammed before it will catch. We have even been locked inside. Had to be unlocked with key from outside.
Sorry to hear you’re having trouble with your door! Has this happened in a View/Navion? Or some other coach. If it’s a View/Navion, there’s always the option to exit through the cab doors, so you should never really get “locked inside”.
The bigger problem is not locking and the door opening when driving. It appears to be locked via the remote, but is not.
Thanks for a great review. Having “toured” the 25D there are a few quibbles that hopefully could be addressed by not too expensive modifications. First, the carpeting just behind the driver and passenger seats is just inviting dust and dirt. It would be preferable to have the excellent flooring replace the two little carpet patches or otherwise have them replaced with a washable material.
Second, with the bathroom in the back it would be nice to have a view from the drivers seat that would allow seeing out the back window as one can in the 24 G model. Maybe the sliding bathroom door could be reversed? Maybe a dutch door effect could be accommodated where the top half of the sliding door could swing? Even a closeable “window” cut into the sliding door?
Third, I am not a fan of TVs that one must look up to view. Not good for the neck. I have never understood why anyone would want a TV over their fireplace for that reason. I understand there are RVs that incorporate a mechanism that allows for a flat panel TV screen to drop down for viewing.
Any thoughts on the practicability of these as mods or even whether one could custom order their being included from the start?
Replacing the carpet with a non-permeable flooring is the kind of update I think you might one day see from Winnebago. I don’t know of any plan or schedule for this, but that’s the kind of common-sense change that they make all the time without too much fanfare.
I don’t think you’ll find any RV manufacturer cutting holes in, or changing, the bathroom doors. The way the industry seems to be moving is to install rear-view monitors that you can use to see out the back. That may be a factory option.
TV mounting preferences become religious wars in RV circles. That’s the sort of thing that most people change themselves with a not-too-expensive modification. Very feasible as a DIY project.
Good Luck!
Thanks for the helpful responses to my “quibbles.” My initial reference to the 25D should be 24D.
Further reflecting on the view through the pocket door question I think the easiest solution would be to cut a notch right to the left edge of the pocket door to match the rear window location. The cut out piece could then be reinserted and then attached on the right side with hinges. When a view out the rear window is then desired all one would have to do is to swing out the piece.
An even better solution (but would require engineering input) would be to design the “notch” piece so it could slide into the door rather than have to swing out. Ergo – a pocket door within a pocket door!
I just received confirmation from Winnebago that the carpet patches behind the front seats have been removed from the current 2018 24 D model.
Not sure what they have been replaced with Look forward to hearing from anyone who has seen a recently built View or Navion 24 D.
Came up with an alternative idea for those who would like more light coming into the rear of the 24D View. There appears to be enough space in the solid back wall closest to the Murphy Bed to place an interior window immediately to the right of the vertical aligned switches and extending to where the shower is placed on the other side. The window should approximate the same size as the exterior window at the rear of the coach. In the bathroom area, for privacy, drop down shades just like the ones on the rear exterior window should do the trick when the bathroom is in use.
Apart from allowing more light into the interior of the View there should be a measure of visibility available for seeing out the rear window from even the driver’s position.
While the factory may be reluctant to put in the interior window, they should be able to accommodate upon request any wiring rerouting needed to keep the area behind the interior window clear of wires so an after market interior window can be installed in that location.
The window installation would actually be easier for them to accommodate than clearing any obstructions inside the wall. Moving wiring would mean they couldn’t use a standard wiring harness. If there was a vent pipe in the wall (which is likely), it would require a plumbing redesign to clear the wall.
It might be worth a shot if you really wanted it, but I would scope the inside of the wall first to see what’s in there.
For anyone who feels there is merit in adding an interior window to the wall between he Murphy Bed and the bathroom, the suggestion of scoping out to see what and where what is located in that wall is an excellent one. To that end it is noted that on the bathroom side of that wall there already appears to be a cutout where the toilet paper dispenser is placed. That would be easy to remove to allow interior access for scoping. Anyone with a 24D willing to take a look for us? (Winnebago did advise that there are electrical and plumbing diagrams on their website, but since they are not in 3D is is difficult to picture the vertical placement.)
My contact at Winnebago also pointed out that with the slideout slid in most of that wall is going to be covered once underway so the driver would likely not get much of a view out the back. FWIW, as it leaves the factory there is no center rear view mirror on the 24D.
An additional observation with regard to the visible switches and controls evident on the left side of the wall, if they are to be relocated to accommodate an interior window extending as far left as possible, then both the middle one (thermostat) and lower one (light switch) could possibly just be moved to the quite thick side edge of the wall. The top control which operates the Murphy Bed is above where one would want to place the interior window so it could remain in place. Since the two controls being relocated are in reality only moving a few inches away the wires coming from the wiring harness should be sufficient as is.
On a separate point, there have been a few changes to the 24D as it is presently built. The most significant is that the legs for the Murphy Bed have been repositioned higher in order to accommodate two head pillows above the couch. The other is that the woodgrain on the cabinets under the kitchen counter has now been replaced with the same bland color as the rest of the cabinets so that woodgrain accent is no longer there. Mixed feelings about that change but definitely like the redesign of the Murphy Bed with the added head cushions when in couch mode.
Thank you for reviewing the rig with the slide in. Not enough RV reviews address this.
I really like this RV other than the lack in inside (secure) bike storage.
Well, just about any of the rigs out there today lack the indoor secure bike storage…
We’re working on it though – pretty much every time we talk to anyone in the industry.
Do you know what changes were made for the 2019 24D over the 2018?
Do you know if the 24D can get more than 200 watts of solar panels?
Would like to see a diesel furnace and a diesel instant water heater!
Love your reviews and Q & A’s, very informative!
Don’t know what changes they may have made for 2019.
Most of the Winnebago RVs have a similar solar energy system installed. That comes with a plug and play box on top with three outlets for solar panels. That means you can get 300 watts easily. If you wanted to replace the factory panels, you might be able to go a bit bigger. The controller can handle 30 amps.
Great review. We currently have a 2017 Navion 24J and love it. However, the bed is a little snug for 2 adults and our small dog. So the 24D interests me. Two questions. Do you have an opinion on the difference between the deluxe graphics and full body paint as far as wear and tear go? Our’s has full body paint and not sure if the value will transfer to resale. Second, I’ve read your posts on your use of a lithium battery, large inverter, solar panels, and second alternator while ditching the generator. I had a 100 watt solar panel added to ours and it helps some. What do you think about ditching the generator and doing what you did to a View/Navion size vehicle?
Interesting questions! Here are my thoughts.
Full body paint seems like a smart decision to me. “Deluxe Graphics” are usually stickers of some sort, and we all know they fade. The fading isn’t damaging, it just looks bad. You can peel the stickers off, but then you are left with un-faded paint that was underneath. At least with paint, it will all fade evenly.
As far as adding a lithium system to a larger Class C rig, I think that’s definitely do-able, and should even be easier than doing it in a van. Mostly, everything would be the same, but you’d just have more room to work.
In my new quest (inspired by you) to look at the feasibility of ditching the generator in our Navion 24J in favor of the JCS (James Conversion System), I’ve done some preliminary research. As a former flight instructor I’m always concerned with weight and balance. The info I can find on the weight of the generator in our rig is 205 lbs. A Xantrex Freedom SW 3012 Inverter is 77 lbs. A Lithionics 48 volt lithium battery can go anywhere from 94 lbs to to 150 lbs and even upwards. Haven’t found any data on a second alternator weight but maybe 30 lbs ??? is a good number. So if I use 125 lbs for the battery + 77 + 30 = 232 lbs. The exchange is reasonable. A presumption I have is that with a switch to lithium, the two coach batteries would also go making the exchange more in my favor. Questions:
Did W&B figure into your decision to eliminate the generator? If so, how?
Does the extra torque required for the 2nd alternator negatively affect mpgs?
I’m starting to get an idea that solar panels are actually more bling than bang, other than if you store the rig outside for a couple of months, thoughts?
Thanks.
Yes, typically if you go with a lithium system, you would drop the regular coach batteries. So the weight picture looks a bit better.
We eliminated our generator for several reasons. Chief among them was that we rarely used it, and hated it when we did. You’re not really supposed to turn on the generator for 90 seconds to microwave a cup of water, for example – so we didn’t. But we have no hesitation to run the inverter for that short period. We wind up using the 120 volt system more regularly now, so the lithium system opens up use cases that were possible before, but extremely annoying.
Once we had installed the lithium system, the generator was just dead weight, so we removed it.
The second alternator doesn’t affect MPG. At full capacity, it’s maybe 5 horsepower from a 300 horsepower engine. We’ve not noticed.
And I like your “more bling than bang” quote! I may use that. It accurately describes the situation, particularly when you get to really large battery capacities.
The overhead bunk comes in handy for those unplanned (or planned) Walmart stops where you shouldn’t extend your slide. Everything is usable and you still have a place to sleep.
Just watched your review of the Winnebago View/Navion 24D. Two comments:
– you stated that the black vent on the slideout, next to the water fill, was a water vent. A Winnebago factory rep told us that it was a vent to relieve air pressure of slide going in and out (we should be opening a window or vent to relieve pressure).
– you stated that the batteries are AGM, We are told that they are lead acid and AGM is not an option except to buy and install them ourselves.
Did he also tell you where to replace the spark plugs? (It’s a diesel engine…)
I don’t know where you heard those from, but we got our info from speaking to the product manager and lead designer… as well as looking at the rig ourselves.
The slide-out-pressure-relief thing is pretty hilarious though!
Thanks for your very thorough review. I’m waiting for the Sprinter 2019 model and will most likely purchase this floor plan then.
Interesting you say this is for a “big family.” Why not just 2 people who want some room to spread out, sleep in, or cook with more counter space? Also, it’s great to have room to accommodate visiting family or friends.
I look at the bed space over the cab as a prime storage area for our inflatable paddle boards, maybe a fold up bike, or other large gear.
One item to note is the queen sized bed is not a real queen size – it is 5″ shorter than a regular 80″ long queen bed. Maybe an issue for 6+ footers.
I see some negative feedback suggesting the 24D will not be able to carry a payload of any size. Well, from the stats it carries just as much as our current LTV Unity. Probably because it doesn’t have to lug around heavy cabinets and Corian countertops our Unity has. I’ll gladly give those up for a full wall slide and the room that provides.
Well, we’re just 2 people, and the 24D seemed absolutely HUGE to us, so that’s why we were thinking of a big family.
Like you, we would use the space over the cab for storage… or the cat.
I just found your YouTube channel. I appreciate your in depth reviews of some of these nice class C RVs. I’m curious as to why the comments are disabled on YouTube. Thanks for the review.
We don’t allow comments on YouTube because both Stef and I have real jobs too. This is just a hobby.
Besides YouTube, we also maintain Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter presences, and most importantly: a web site.
Constantly monitoring comments across multiple platforms was too much work. Something had to go.
Every video we post has an associated article on our web site.
You can find the link in the description, and we do encourage comments there. You can also ask questions on our Facebook page.
We find that people who are willing to click over generally are willing to leave constructive comments, and the discussion is much better than the typical YouTube video.
Cheers!
Always fun to see your reviews! A Navion parked beside our Pleasure-Way last summer and I learned that the family cat used the over cab space and window to hang out in. I thought that was creative use of the space!
If we had a loft like that, we would probably just dedicate it to Mel.
Our space is a little more limited!
Good to see the fresh water take is on the inside. How about the plumbing? Does this look 4 season ready to you?
I don’t know how cold I would take it to, but yes, I think I could take this rig out in the winter. I’d have to be smart about it, but it would work.
What’s your take on the difference between a lp generator and a diesel generator on a sprinter 24d view . In your opinion as a seasoned RV ‘r is it worth the extra money ??
Interesting question.
Personally, I don’t think we’ll be looking for another rig with a generator, but in the case you mention, here are my thoughts.
A diesel generator will run off the same fuel tank as the van itself, so your propane will last longer.
Diesel generators sound slightly less obnoxious. (slightly…)
Diesel generators produce a bit more juice.
Diesel generators are slightly larger.
The propane generator will (and this is just my experience) require a bit less maintenance.
All in all – if you plan to run it a lot, I would go for the diesel.
If it’s going to be just a few times per season, I’d opt for propane.
We have an ERA 170x, but now have a handicapped (3rd) person to accompany us on travel. Wondering if this 24 D model is available with the Profile front? Thinking that the Profile would save us some weight, improve aerodynamics, let more light in–and none of us would use the cab-over sleeping area.
Good Question!
I had thought the cab-over was required, and it says so on the floorplan on Winnebago’s own website.
For a special situation like yours, you might try calling Winnebago customer service.
Hello, I was able to contact a very helpful dealer, who is able to order a 24D with the Profile front. Not sure about other dealers, but at least this could be an option.
The Profile front was available upto 28 Jan 2018. After that date, the Profile option was eliminated on all View/Navion models.
You and Stef are so much fun to watch and ‘hang out’ with (virtually). Thanks for some of the best RV reviews on the Internet!
Stop by anytime!
Glad you like the reviews. We’ve got at least 3 more in the pipeline right now.
I am really looking forward to your up coming reveiw on the Galleria by Coachmen. I hear thay now offer an under hood generator and lithium and up to 300 watts of solar. I am thinking about buying the 3 seater model.
Thanks so much for what you and Stef do in keeping the RV community informed.
The Galleria review is the next RV review that we will put up!
(You’ll like it.)
You guys are GREAT ambassadors for Winnebago and they are certainly getting their fair share of pub from Fit RV. Good to see this floor plan and I wonder how much they meaning Winnebago liked what LTV has done with their layouts on the MB chassis. Its too big for us and as somebody already mentioned probably limiting in carrying capacities due to the huge slide.
Too bad nobody is copying euro designs and hopefully Hymer brings in fresh and new layouts as it seems this industry is copying what works for the leaders.
Keep the rubber side down and may a tail wind show you the way home.
What is this “tail wind” you speak of? 😉
better than a head wind on the way home !
We have a 2008 24H. The slide is smaller, but we like it for the similar reasons you share here (indoor water tank, etc.) Having the slide in is no big deal and everything is accessible. We’ve slept with it in on occasion when traveling (family of 4 with 2 tall teenagers).
Glad to hear your rig works for you, even with the slide in!
As always, thanks for the review. Do they have a MSRP on these yet?
I don’t have any info on that other than what we see on Winnebago’s official Navion page.
The problem with these Sprinter vans with big slides and lots of storage: you will be limited with the total weight of people, water, and storage. You probably are limited to less than a 1000 lbs.
Good point. Overloading your RV should always be a concern. I will see if I can find the OCCC of this rig.
I looked at a 2018 24D. The GOCCC was 1040 Lbs. Options were LP Genset, Stabilizers, A/C-Heat Pump, Cab Cushions, Navigation and Front Cap w/Bed.
I think the design of these are great but most of these view/navion on the road are over weight. Meaning technically they are NOT insurable if the Insurance company finds out about it being over weight after an accident. With full tanks you have to subtract 492 lbs from your Carrying capacity (cc). Subtract the weight of people lets say 300 lbs and that leaves you will 200 lbs of cc left. Tools, food, liquid refreshments, clothes books, can put you overweight in an instance. Of course the only way to really find out cc is to weight the vehicle and I would guess the the 1000 lb cc is optimistic.
Put this on a Ford f450 chassis and it solves your weight problems but of course this changes a lot of things. Winnebago of course does not make one of these on a ford chassis.
The floorplan is very similar to my 2013 Itasca Reyo 25R (and Winnebago Via 25R, which were both discontinued after 2013) except mine has a permanent Queen, not a Murphy bed. Mine also has inside water tank, heater pads on waste tanks, but water lines are exposed. As an aside, I’ve never understood the purpose of tank heater pads when the water lines are exposed. I’ve never used mine.
Al-In-All a great floor plan (the 24D and mine). I’ve never seen one I like better.
I LOVE LOVE this model. They sure did good thinking out the layout. There is nothing I don’t like. I especially like the Murphy bed. Nice to have your bedding all made up. Great job showing us your review of this rig. Keep up the good work. Maybe when I get older i’ll buy this unit. I’m only 79 now so I ha e plenty of time to make up my mind.
It’s interesting that the manufacturers are installing bigger slides in the smaller units. We saw the Jayco Melbourne 24L at Pomona which also has a big slideout. I’m surprised Winnebago is putting the water tank in the slide due to the added weight. I’m wondering if there have improvements to the slide mechanism that allow that.
I noticed the slide drawers in the big cabinet eliminates space to hang heavy jackets and other clothing. The cabinets above the bed are blocked when the murphy bed is up, so you’d mainly use them for things you’d access with the bed down. Outside storage is impressive (it seemed lacking in the Melbourne 24L). I’d want to store the “Stinky Slinky” separate from the utility compartment so not to mix with the fresh water hose.
I wondered about the water tank in the slide too, but I asked and they’re OK with it. Must be better made slides these days!
Do the driver and passenger seats swivel?
Yes!!
I wanted to like the new Navion. The legs of the murphy bed make my skin crawl.
Great review. Thank you. I think this is one of the most practical floor plans that you’ve reviewed in any RV. It lends itself to a more extended stay use without being an extremely large vehicle.
Where is the review of the drivers cabin??
Well, it’s a Sprinter.
We’ve reviewed so many Sprinter-based RVs… They’re all basically the same – with a few minor switches different, depending on what options the manufacturer ordered from Mercedes.
Nice Rv, but much too big for me (one person).
Well, you’d have plenty of space if it were just the one of you!
rv corral on youtube shows a navion j model with dual pane tilt out windows. do you think these windows will be offered on the travato? thank you.
The dual-pane acrylic windows have been a Navion option for some time.
They are more challenging to install, as they are really meant for something with a thick wall. Not a thin-walled van.
Not saying it can’t be done (or won’t be), but there are challenges.
they are on the hymer aktiv which is the same chassis as the travato? so winnebago could put them on the travato right?
True, it can be done. It just takes some advance planning and design.
I wouldn’t be surprised if you see them on a future version of the Travato some day.
These windows scratch very easiley and are hard to take care of. I had this type of window in our northern lite truck camper. Maintance night mare.Not worth the cost.
Our experience is completely the opposite. We’ve had one of these windows on our van for 5 years now. As long as you’re not completely careless when you wash it, there’s no scratching problem. At all.
It’s been maintenance free, quieter, and better insulated than any other window on our van.
Maybe you just got a bad one – or they were installed carelessly.
I really like that floor plan. What is the performance like on one of these units vs the Sprinter van models?
You mean performance like 0-60 times? I don’t know that anyone has ever tested that out.
In general, the class Cs drive and ride like the larger, heavier vehicles they are. They’re not huge or unmanageable, but they are bigger than their van-bodied cousins. And you can tell that when you drive them.
What is the numbers on the bed? look like a six footer would have their feet hanging out
60″ x 75″ according to the official Winnebago specs.
So, the same width, but 5 inches shorter than a standard queen.
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Review thank you