Cassette Toilet Adapter Solution! The Americanizer™


I’ll be honest, emptying cassette toilets has always kind of grossed me out.  And since our new Winnebago EKKO will have a cassette toilet, I figured I needed to do something about it.  So I came up with this, and it looks like you’ll soon be able to order one:

 

Update 4/26/2021 – THEY’RE ON THE WAY!!!

Very literally… on a slow boat from China right now…

So, the Americanizer™ is made in China.  There are two reasons for this:

  1.  I love irony.
  2. I didn’t think anyone would want a sewage adapter that cost $95 and was available in 2022.

Seriously, I really tried to find a US-based injection molding company, but those are the kind of ridiculous numbers and dates I was being quoted.  So I did the next best thing: I found a foreign injection molding manufacturer with a US presence and engineering staff, so we’re at least supporting some office jobs in the USA.

Anyway, long leadup to let you all know that the first batch of 2000 Americanizers™ is right now making its way to the US via ocean.  I wanted to get more than 2000, because there are a LOT more than 2000 of you that want one, but the second batch will have to wait until we recoup some of our money from this first batch.  We’re told that the ocean shipping process takes a total of about 28 days, accounting for delays, customs, and then final shipping inside the US.  We won’t be selling these, shipping them, or collecting money ourselves.  We’re RVers, too!  We’d rather be spending our time on the road.  So once we have them, we’ll have to figure out how to get them on Amazon.  I’m allowing a month to figure that mess out, so it still looks like June to have them available for sale.

You might have guessed from reading this, that the beta testers all reported back successfully.  Nobody broke it.  Nobody spilled sewage all over themselves.  Some of them even have helpful tips on how to use it.  So… the short version of the update is:

Testing went well.  Still on track for June availability.

 

Update 3/22/2021  –  WE’VE GOT SAMPLES!!!

I got a package today from our injection molding contractor containing a few samples of what could be the production version of the Americanizer™.  I just need to test them out and then we should be good to go.  I plan to send one sample to an RV dealership, where they might be able to have their service department put it through its paces.  I’d also like to find a couple of you who have responded on the signup page to test these out as well.  I’d like to test with a variety of cassettes, so I’m looking for two people who have different models of Thetford cassettes than I do.  I have the C220.  So I’m looking for folks with the 200, 250, 260, 400, 500, C2,3,4… anything besides what I have.  I’ll send details in the next Americanizer™ update email.

The good news from all of this is that it seems like I could have some available at RV dealers by summer for sure.  Amazon may take a little longer to get set up, but I’m targeting summer there as well.  It’s happening!

Update – 1/31/2021  –  GOOD NEWS!!!

Since originally posting this, scores of people have registered their interest.  That’s enough for us to forge ahead and get it manufactured.  We’ve contracted with an injection molding facility.  They’re making the molds now, and I expect to have some samples around the end of March.  If those samples check out, then it’s off to the races.  If everything goes according to plan, The Americanizer™ should be available this summer!  We plan to sell it on Amazon.  If you are interested in potentially having one, just go to

https://www.thefitrv.com/Americanizer

and fill out the very short form with your email address.  I’ll send out periodic emails to let  you know how this is progressing, and when it’s available for sale.  There is NO COMMITMENT to buy one.

I pretty much say it all in the video, but to summarize, The Americanizer™ adapts a toilet cassette (popular in Europe) to work with North American RV sanitation accessories and dump stations.  It eliminates your exposure to a literal gusher of human waste, and it provides a spill-free, sight-free, and smell-free way to empty the cassette into any standard RV dump station.  Besides that, there are a few other benefits that make this better than any kind of hose contraption you might rig up yourself:

  • No modifications are made to the cassette itself.
  • The design is such that the waste never actually flows through the adapter.
  • You don’t have to grab the “dirty” end of the adapter to attach or detach it.
  • The adapter is really easy to grab, tighten, and loosen, even with gloved hands.

 

Oh, and I know I joke around a lot, but there really is a patent pending on the design of The Americanizer™.

So – what do you think?  As far as I’m concerned, this really solves one of my biggest hang-ups with a cassette toilet, and it does it in a way that only adds capability to the cassette – and doesn’t take any away.  But maybe you disagree.  I’m actually very interested in your thoughts here.  If you were someone who was a “hard no” on cassettes, would this change your mind?  If you’re already a cassette user, can you think of times this would have come in handy?  Or maybe it’s never come up?  Have any of you had troubles with a cassette at RV parks?  And if so, would this resolve the objections of the park staff?  I’m interested in all of that.

Sound off below!

 



James is a former rocket scientist, a USA Cycling coach, and lifelong fitness buff. When he's not driving the RV, or modifying the RV (or - that one time - doing both at once), you can find him racing bicycles, or building furniture, or making music. In his spare time, he works for a large IT company.


    273 thoughts on “Cassette Toilet Adapter Solution! The Americanizer™

    1. John and Nancy Guth

      Just left a previous comment/questions, but – I installed one of the REMIS front windshield privacy screens in our TRAVATO. I saw them in a new 2019 – totally deploys/stows in 15 seconds. Bought one for our 2015 and fit just fine. Consider it our best aftermarket purchase of all.
      Winn – doesn’t offer these anymore; they said they can’t readily get them from Remis.
      I contacted REMIS in Germany (their US group only makes freezer front doors). Germany makes them for the Ford but they said they do it for the European model – any idea if there are any dimensional differences US/European windshield posts (understand the UK version would be rt-hand drive)?

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      1. James - Post author

        Not sure about any differences between US and EU versions of the transit. Airbags are a big one that get in the way of these blind systems.
        We had a REMIS in Lance, but grew tired of it. We don’t plan to put one in the EKKO.

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    2. John and Nancy Guth

      YES! We would like to buy an Americanizer.
      We have our Ekko on order – scheduled delivery Sept/Oct.
      We are seriously thinking of a second cassette – should we buy exact model replacement from Winn or what is the manufacturer?

      We really find your Utube Videos informative and helpful.
      We did order our EKKO with the pop-up additional sleeping roof option – we have 8 grandchildren and occasionally “may” have someone(s) else go with us –
      Can you share your thoughts on how/where you will add shelving etc to the various storage areas.
      We now have a Travato 59K which we have put 54k miles on in the last 27 months – I just found myself leaving places when the weather started getting questionable – hence the AWD became a “need” item. I put a 4″ lift kit on and aftermarket wheels with MudSnow tires but it’s still a front-wheel drive w/o a locking differential. We race (road) bicycles, hunt, fish, backpack out west, but both in our 70’s, not getting stuck, or leaving just when the bad weather makes the hunting good, got old.

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    3. Mark Albright

      Have new [email protected] with the cassette. I’m not overly grossed out when I dump at the park but I’d buy this, as without this I do slop sometimes. I’ll be interested in the retail price.

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    4. Gisela Didonato

      what a wonderful gadget to have and to make the process easier I am definitely interested after I purchase a cassette type of camper !! I was shying away from these type of camper due to the cassette toilet. Not anymore, I think the camper world should definitely put it into their stock!!!
      My hat goes off to you for creating such a great adapter!!

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    5. Kevin T. Dickson

      Hi James,

      Could you direct me to information on how they empty cassette toilets in the EU?
      My google results were too vague. But I’m leaning toward that solution in addition to the Americanizer.

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      1. James - Post author

        Well, the way they dump them in the EU has more to do with the campground facilities than it does with the individual RVer.
        In Europe, campgrounds have installed special cassette dumping stations. Often times these are of the form of a giant funnel, or a much larger opening near the ground.
        There are even some automated cassette dump and rinse stations! Put in a few Euro and a dirty cassette, and a clean cassette comes back to you.
        These aren’t things you’ll be able to do over here. (Unless you own your own campground.)

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    6. Patrick Broos

      I noticed that 8 of the comments are from people who strongly dislike cassette toilets, but are willing to tolerate them in order to own an Ekko. I would imagine that there are many others (like me) who also want an Ekko, but feel that the cassette toilet is a deal breaker.

      I hope Winnebago’s marketing department will take note, and will offer other toilet options. (The “composting” toilet design is my personal favorite.)

      I’d like to understand how Winnebago imagines Ekko owners will manage their tanks on a “boon-docking” trip. Presumably the (5 gallon) cassette will be emptied every two days or so, and the (50 gallon) grey tank will be emptied at a dump station, when you return to civilization to fill the (50 gallon) fresh tank. But, that sort of seems backwards to me. I’d rather dispose of small quantities of gray water every few days, and dump all the sewage once, when back in town to fill the fresh tank. But, I readily accept that Winnebago knows much more than I do about the typical preferences of their customers. To each his own.

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      1. Kevin T. Dickson

        I went through the same thing when I bought a Lil Snoozy 4 years ago.
        I installed a saniflo sanicompact macerating toilet and pumped it to the gray tank.
        It is still working great after 4 years of daily use

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    7. Iggy B

      Yes, I want (1) Americanizer, and (1) “The Fit RV Americanizer” T-Shirt. Sure fire way to start a conversation

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    8. Adam Jones

      I’ve been looking at getting an RV for a couple of years, but just recently started to get more serious in my search. I found your website over the weekend and have been reading your various reviews and tips… then, tonight, I googled info on emptying cassette toilets, because that’s truly a part of RV life that I don’t look forward to… but, whaddyaknow? The 2nd YouTube video that comes up is your demo of the Americanizer! All of a sudden, cassette toilets don’t seem so bad. Opens up a lot of options! Thank you!!!!

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      1. James - Post author

        Right on!
        Beta testers are reporting back. 2 of the 4 have reported successful experiences so far!

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    9. Steven Hebert

      You should license this to a large cassette toilet manufacturer so you don’t have to deal with production and all the rest. But sell one to me first 😉

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    10. Stan Augustyniewicz

      Would it be possible to leave it on the cassette or are there interference issues when you put the tank back in the toilet?

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      1. James - Post author

        There’s not room to leave an adapter on when you try to swing the spout back over the body of the cassette.

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    11. Dan Jervis

      As a Master plumber for 48 years, naturally I am familiar with adaptors for waste materials. The idea is excellent and so appropriate for our Ekko (whenever we get it).. Count me in for a purchase

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    12. Cyrus

      I’m interested. I think it’s a great idea. I personally would want to find a short (or modify an existing) sewer drain hose.. maybe 3 feet stretched out.

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      1. James - Post author

        Make sure you hit the official signup sheet linked on this page. That’s how I’ll be notifying people of progress!

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    13. James Roberts

      This is a great idea. I fractured a lumbar cross country skiing last season (back on skis this season) and dumping the cassette is less than favorable. Hope you find a way to make this available to the public. Sign me up!

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    14. Jane Passamonte

      This is a fantastic idea, but I’d like to see one with a shorter hose. The cassette is portable, so I don’t need a long sewer hose to transport.

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      1. James - Post author

        There are lots of shorter hoses on the market. I just used what I had on hand for the video!

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    15. Teresa Taylor

      James – Do you need some test clients???? We just got our Winnebago Solis PX this weekend and are taking it out on it’s first trip in a week. Would love to have this option with us — would you consider selling a 3D printer demo version for us to try as a beta tester ;)?

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    16. Dave Piotrowski

      Yes! I was trying to decide between 22 and 24…now that they dropped the 24 I know I’ll have the cassette..and your design is great.

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    17. Marion Lamb

      I’m not sure if my husband signed up here, but, since I’m going to be responsible for dumping the cassette toilet, I want an Americanizer! Thanks for this innovation!

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    18. Nadine Narita

      Absolutely want one or two! YES, yes, yes! We need this by the time we pick up our Ekko this summer. Genius! We had wanted a 24C to avoid a cassette toilet, but this makes it more “palatable”. How soon can you have them?
      Thank you! Nadine and Joe

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    19. Sharon Sexton

      I think this is AMAZING! YOU ARE SO TALENTED. We are going to buy our first RV in about 6 months and we are interested in the Ekko. However, the cassette toilet was going to be a big problem for me. Now, I can keep the EKKO on the list.

      With your e-mails, once this product has been finalized, I would love to see your recommendations on other products you add to the tank for odor. Thank you so much!

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    20. William Holt

      ***
      I do not know how standard the flush hole is on a standard toilet, but if there was an adapter that fit a RV slinky hose with a soft rubber end that would stick into the bottom of a staNdard flush toilet and seal the bottom opening…. well, dumping might not be stinky at all.

      Might work by simply mounting the americanizer, optionally connect hose, then connect the anti-stinker adapter…stick in toilet and let go of your waste.

      The adapter would be in/under the initial water in the toilet to help keep smells from coming up. Then as you flush the toilet and slowly remove the hose/adapter, some cleaning of the hose end/adapter would take place.

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    21. Judi Fleeman

      This is awesome! I really like the EKKO, but have EXTREME reservations due to the cassette toilette. I kept envisioning myself having to take my crap for a walk and trying to disguise it as luggage. You are one smart cookie!

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    22. Adrian Benton

      Hi James, could I throw a spanner in the works/?
      I recently heard about an incinerator toilet for RVs, it consumes 2000W when operating but you end up with a small amount of ash, no smells, no carrying 20 litres of goo about.
      With your power availability on the EKKO it seems like a no brainer!

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      1. James - Post author

        They do have those, but all the ones I’ve seen use propane to do the incinerating.
        If they could figure out a way to avoid incinerating just a few ounces of liquid – and save the incineration for solids – I’d be more interested.

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    23. Phil

      Kudos for your constant solutions to “the questions that trouble us so”. . .I must add that I don’t have a cassette so I don’t have this issue and haven’t read every single comment, but I wondered about an additional approach. Many have suggested a straight dump, but you experienced difficulty without splashing, etc. Why not just make an extender version of the item that contains a gate valve? You could index into your fitting without a single drop being spilled, pull the valve and flush away. You’re left with a five or six inch accessory that’s much easier to rinse than any size slinky and much easier to transport.

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    24. Larry

      That is an outstanding design. It shows a level of design sophistication that is rarely seen today.

      We have never actually had an issue with dumping or odor. Presumably a good deodorizer effectively controls the smell. Dumping was much improved when we realized that Thetford’s air vent was a major contributor to dumping issues. Not only is it clumsy to push while dumping but it lets in far too little air. The solution is to remove the plastic cover plate and open the flap valve by turning the button. That allows much better flow. You are also ready for a quick inside flush with a hose.

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    25. Douglas Baty

      2/11/21: Great engineering work. Very good explanation video. Amazing finishing details for a prototype (looks commercial already). Made perhaps on a 3D printer?

      I don’t own an RV at this time, but my favorite (Wini Solis) comes with a cassette toilet. In that case your Americanizer would be much needed. Surprising you are the first to create what in hindsight looks obvious.

      One downside to cassette toilets is dump fees. Their charge is the same for 4 gallons as for 40. Therefore, should I ever convert a van I would incorporate a large black holding tank.
      DB, retired in Sacto

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    26. Jas

      Why not have a sealing cap on the Americanizer and not swap out the european cap and the americanizer? Just keep your americanizer on the cassette and put a black tank cap like the one found on any Airstream or trailer dump valve.

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      1. James - Post author

        I had thought of that.
        There’s not enough room between the spout and the cassette body when the spout is rotated in for that to fit.

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        1. James - Post author

          We’ve just contracted with an injection molding company.
          Hope to have them on Amazon by the summer camping season!

    27. Ethan Edward Smith

      Since the cassette toilet will be emptied from such a low height, why not work with a blank tank hose manufacturer and created a smaller hose to go with the Americanizer? Van owners don’t need long hoses to make it from their rigs to the emptying drains and smaller hoses will also be easier to store in vans.

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    28. Ron James

      Yes, I would be interested as I’m looking at selling my Winnie Paseo and getting into a new Winnie Ekko. The only turn-off on the Ekko is the cassette toilet. This adapter would definitely improve that situation !

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    29. Dano

      I was thinking of fashioning some kind of short hose to make it easier with more control when dumping my porta-potti in a toilet. So I will buy the adapter if produced.

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    30. Kevin

      I currently have the conventional “Black Tank” but I am considering purchasing a new RV with a cassette toilet. If and when I do, this would be my First purchase. I think it’s a Great idea!!!

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      1. Paul

        Hi
        I have a black tank in my Safari Condo and during the winter I use a Dometic Porta Potti portable toilet Thetford has a cassette. I dump in my garage where I have a sewer look out similar to yours in your drive way. I was watching you dumping your cassette into the sewer and asked my self why don’t you insert the 6 inches pipe that is on the cassette into the sewer look out?
        That is what I have been doing and not one drop of waste goes on the floor! Those 90 degrees 6 inches pipe can easily be introduced into the sewer look out one second before the flow of waste is being dump.
        Cheers

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        1. James - Post author

          I tried that multiple times with plain water, and I always managed to spill at least a few drops.
          Trying that was one of the things that got me started on the Americanizer.

      1. James - Post author

        Well, the good news is that the connection lugs are an industry standard. You can connect it to whatever you like!

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    31. Steve

      I’ve already responded yes but I forgot to add a thought.
      a long long time ago in the beginning when I had a black tank I had attachment on my black water line that was clear so you could see when the clarity of your effluent….just another idea

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      1. James - Post author

        That’s the beauty of adapting it in this way. You’re free to add whatever standard dump accessory or hose length you’d like to!

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      2. Tom

        I have the 2021 320 with cassette. I found dumping exactly into what you were showing was not a problem. You start out with a low angle and as you raise it up slowly it’ll start pouring in drain. When you get it near a 90 degree you can push the air release and stick nozzle into hole. But all depends on how much you have. Your device as is I would still buy one to have. But I wonder if you made it so it would be an extender ( longer) so your angle to the hole you’ll be able to get it into the hole before it starts coming out. Then you’ll have it into the hole when releasing air. This year I’m going to try using a grey tank cap where you can use a garden hose. So I’m trying to eliminate the slinky hose.

        But yes I would buy one.

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        1. James - Post author

          If you have the 320, and you’re interested, please do go to the signup sheet and enter your email.
          It’s possible I’ll want to do another quick round of testing with some different cassettes just to double-check things. I’d be asking for volunteers from that list.

    32. Charles Cartwright

      Yes, I would definitely purchase your adapter if I go with a cassette. It would remove one objection against the cassette toilet. I would project way more than 600 sales!

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      1. Jacob

        Interesting but would not buy. In our pop up camper we don’t have room for the hose so then the Americanizer is of little use.

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        1. James - Post author

          Gotta give you that one – if you don’t have a hose, there’s not much need for an adapter…

    33. Sharon Fields

      I have disliked the idea of a cassette toilet, but this invention might make the toilet doable. This would make more Class B RVs available for my consideration like the Revel.
      By the way, comments are disabled on your YouTube posts at least for me.

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      1. James - Post author

        Comments are disabled on that video on YouTube because we are trying to funnel those interested to

        https://www.thefitrv.com/americanizer

        so that we can keep them informed if/when we produce this thing. If you’re interested in getting one when that happens, please sign up there so we can keep you posted.

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    34. Chris Brackenbury

      On our EarthRoamer cassette we haven’t had much issue as we mostly use pit or rest stop toilets’
      There is room on our unit to add a waist valve on the existing pipe.
      I think for those that need it a small extending hose replacing the solid one would make a good idea as you don’t need extra hose’s.

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    35. Steve Carmichael

      Could you hurry up and get this on the market please GREAT IDEA!! Easy to make a shorter hose from existing products already out there.

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    36. AMc

      I like the idea. I try to keep the gray hose as gray as possible, so maybe it could be used with a short hose and adapter on the exit end. Thanks.

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    37. Christopher

      Very interesting idea! Fourteen years ago we shipped a 1991 Toyota Dolphin mini-C to France. We go over almost every summer and tour around then store it there until our next trip. European campgrounds are really geared to cassette toilets so finding a ground level dump for our American style black tank was a serious struggle. A few years in, we cobbled together a DYI mascerator but that was more trouble than worth. Ten years ago, when our OEM toilet finally crapped out (yeah, yeah, I know) we replaced it with an American style Thetford and joy reigned supreme again. To be honest, with practice — and waiting to press the vent valve until the spout is safely in the chute — dumping without mess is typical. Your brillant invention will probably be most popular with newbies and those who are anxious about “not taking any chances.” P.S. Have enjoyed your videos for years.

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      1. James - Post author

        “Not taking any chances” accurately describes my feelings about dumping into the sewer clean-out in the driveway!!

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    38. Mark

      I didn’t read all the comments so you may have already answered the question regarding the gas off I heard in the video. Was there back pressure created when dumping that caused that sound. Would that mean air blast of sewage smell when it’s the real stuff? The sound seemed louder than usual. Great invention.

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      1. James - Post author

        You heard the cassette vent. That was air rushing INto the cassette. No weird gassing going on. No smells escape.

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    39. Eileen Brown

      We are not in the market (yet) for an Ekko….but seriously, Winnebago needs to offer this with the rig. At a minimum, this video needs to goon their channel too! Well done you! I am so impressed!

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    40. Sherry in MT

      Yup, sign me up for 1 as well! No cassette currently but, and I do not lie, literally a friend of mine lives off grid with her husband. They just got rid of their composting toilet for a cassette and she was telling me the tales of trying to dump that sucker at the dump station and trying to find a way to get it to work (flip top lid on the dump station). I sent her the link to your video. PERFECT TIMING!

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    41. Yoshitsugu Endo

      Hey James,
      I had a thought which you might want to take a survey on. The color, is it better to be black or dark color so you can’t see the yuck if it gets on it, or a white or orange color so it can be found in the dark if you drop it ? You can also tell if you need to wash it off as well if you can see it on there in the dark.

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        1. tom labadie

          Agreed something that stands out, neon green? and easily recognizable. keep up the good work.

    42. Terry Kurtz

      Yes, count me in for at least 2. My daughter is getting an Armadilllo travel trailer and they chose the cassette over the black tank.

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    43. Chrissie

      I wondered which cassette toilet you were using, because I had not seen one like it before, my cassette toilet had nothing like that to empty it with. (it came with my motor home and I hate it) If I had something like this to work with instead of the cheap cassette that it had, I would have stayed with a cassette instead of trying to install a new black tank and a ceramic toilet in my motor home. I think the idea is brilliant. Please do continue with your plans. I only wish I’d seen this before investing all the time, energy and mostly money to DIY repairing/replacing what it originally had. (I did a good job at it, but since the shocks/springs need replacing, I knocked the tank loose again and need to repair it all over again…ugg!!!) Blessings to you.

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    44. HappyJamesAndSteffFan

      And THIS is why we love JAMES aka the SolutionMeister!
      Yup, sign me up for one. I don’t even need it yet. Not sure I can convince hubby to play along. He still thinks cassettes are beyond gross. But, I am ready to put my money in! I am sure that we will get on the cassette train with our next van. 1st, we are both German and we appreciate the practicality. 2nd, our Pleasure-way Lexor Prosmaster has a 12 gallon black tank and this is our weakest link for boondocking.
      We love you too,STEF, for always making us laugh by how you put up with the SolutionMeister!
      Thank you both,
      Gina

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      1. Stefany

        Well this just made my night! Thanks Gina! Admittedly, the “SolutionMeister” can be a handful somedays… but MOST of the time I think I’m a pretty lucky gal. ❤️ Be well, sister! xo

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    45. Davis Freeman

      Great idea but I have a couple of suggestions all related to storage. Most people will want to store it with the cassette or waste hose.
      Make sure the OD does not exceed the ID of the standard black hose storage tube. It could be stored attached to the hose.
      Consider reducing the cassette side OD such that it could be reversed, attached backwards and stored within the ID of the waste tube if possible. We all wear gloves doing this anyway.
      Consider eliminating or making it easy to eliminate the handle portion. What would be left would do the job and would be short enough that it could stored in with the cassette.

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    46. JP

      Always wondered why Thetford did not design the spout on the cassette with a blade valve. Then it would be easy to hold the cassette vertical at rv dump, open the air valve then pull the blade to empty. Until that day arrives. This works.

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      1. Sue

        So this would require I carry a stinky slinky that has not had a good gray water rinse? Sounds like extra smelly cargo bulk to manage, so no thank you.

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        1. James - Post author

          Well, I think the idea is that… if you’re at an RV dump, then you’re going to be dumping your grey tank.
          So I think you *would* be hooking this up to your grey tank and then rinsing it afterwards.

    47. Richard Anthony

      We have recently ordered an Ekko and would be interested in purchasing you fitting.

      Also what do you think about replacing the existing microwave with a convection/microwave in the Ekko?

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      1. James - Post author

        Good to hear on the fitting!
        You might have problems installing a convection oven. They require quite a bit of empty space around them for heat dissipation. I don’t think there’s enough room where it is.
        You may have to move the microwave somewhere else to get that room.

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      2. Don Katcoff

        Wonderful idea! Was about to cancel our Ekko order since we wanted the 25 C. Now Ekko is back in the running!

        Besides dumping I am concerned about odors inside the RV itself. Any comments on this?

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        1. James - Post author

          I’ll be working on some things in the future once we have our EKKO, so keep checking back.

    48. Fred

      Been in the market for a RVTrader/camper for a while now. When I finally pull the trigger it will be with a cassette toilet for sure, so count me in!!
      Great idea and just another reason now to opt for a cassette vs a black tank.
      Keep me posted and keep up the great videos and looking forward to watching you guys in the new RV!
      Fred

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    49. Mitch

      Awesome idea and design. After enjoying your videos for longer than I care to admit, I’m not at all surprise with how much thought you’ve put into the idea and how far you’ve taken it.

      Count my vote on the “buy’ side of your chart/graph.

      That being said, I’m a manufacturing and design engineer, so it still comes down to price-point vs what I can print myself. Having been down this path several times before, I have some experience. If you care to reach out, I’d be honored to share some thoughts.

      Meantime, great idea and I’m actually excited to see where you go with it. Please make a video to keep us informed.

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    50. LB

      Nice work. If my B had a cassette toilet I would get this — and then I would modify the standard dump hose to be 2’ in length.

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    51. Robert parry

      Saw your Americanizer video on YouTube but for some reason the comment section was “turned off” so I came over to your web site. I think you have a great solution which might change how I think about a cassette toilet and dumping it. I like the cleanliness of a hose and not getting near any splashes or smells and your attachment looks like a great solution. Thus in a future RV such as the Ecko I might consider a cassette. I also wonder if the Americanizer attachment could be left on the cassette container along with the standard sewer cap and then inserted into the RV and connect to the cassette toilet?

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      1. James - Post author

        There’s not room for an attachment on the spout when it’s rotated back into the “in use” position.

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    52. John

      I’ve been using a cassette toilet for nearly three years and have yet to have a problem when dumping into an American dump station hole. I can’t imagine having to clean the hose and store it along with the adapter. I suspect that there won’t be as much enthusiasm for this product among those who are experienced cassette toilet owners.

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      1. James - Post author

        Thanks for your input.
        We’ve been able to use cassettes as well without too much difficulty. It was wanting the ability to use the clean out in my driveway that initially prompted me to work on this.

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    53. AK

      I have been considering a cassette toilet in a custom build-out. Definitely interested in this, if I go the cassette toilet route.

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    54. Doug Toney

      We have considered moving from our Travato to the EKKO. This makes that migration more palatable. I have never used a cassette toilet. What was the hissing sound when you emptied the cassette?

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      1. James - Post author

        There’s a vent button on the cassette. When you press it, you allow air into the cassette so that it drains faster and doesn’t glug-glug-glug.

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    55. James Hulse

      Hi James, we have an Activ with a Cassette toilet which before we bought the van we were very concerned about its operation of dumping. But after some experience on dumping, we now don’t have any issues with dumping the cassette and don’t miss the sewer drain hole – that would be bad. My only concern is not being allowed to dump in a park or campground because it is not allowed. In this case, we would consider buying your adapter but with a very short black hose.

      It is a great idea and very innovative.

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    56. Will Maitner

      Wouldn’t it make more sense to just make a riser for the ports and dump straight in without the hose? Say 30-36” tall with a screw in adapter on the end like that thing on the end of the hose.. Then you dump it straight into the pipe riser instead of needing a hose..

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      1. James - Post author

        Well, I suppose that might work, but you’d still have to hit the hole, and then you’d have a three foot pipe to clean and store…

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        1. Kevin Long

          I was forced into a cassette situation for a health problem a few years back. emptying was not a severe problem once practiced, I do feel a 2′ piece of straight pipe would be easier to clean than a 20 foot accordion hose. I would always rinse the interior anyway, so flushing the pipe clean is simple. NOW that said if I had a grey tank to empty anyway, I might feel differently. It problem is pipe alignment witth the drain hole before the dump begins. I always controlled that by not pressing the air vent release till I was in position. it did not stop all flow but made it manageable for me. I could have used another foot to foot and 1/2 of pipe. would have been perfect. There wasn’t room on the cassette itself so the add on would be perfect.

    57. Mike K

      Yes! Yes! Yes! I want one. This is a perfect addition to increase cassette toilet utility.

      Great engineering solution to a crappy problem.

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        1. Julia C Cheng

          Simple yet awesome idea. Would purchase one for 100% when our next RV is a Class B. Thanks for sharing a solution for us North Americans.

    58. Scott S

      Looks like a useful product with some really nice design touches! I’m sure my European friends might have a few comments about the irony of a device called “The Americanizer” being so intimately associated with poop, though. Perhaps a more innocuous name is in order? I’d like to suggest calling it the Cassette Adapter Tool. “Hey, Steph, can you toss me the CAT?”

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      1. James - Post author

        When I came up with that name, it was kind of tongue in cheek. Heck, I even thought about putting a little EU flag on the container…
        But people on both sides of the pond seem to like it and take it in the jovial manner it was intended.
        So what the heck… I’m rolling with it!

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      1. James - Post author

        Fantastic! Don’t forget to sign up on the official sign-up form above.
        (That’s where I’ll be exporting the email list from…)

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    59. ken denton

      I suggest putting it on Kickstarter to get the cost of tooling and manufacturing. Excellent design. I had to dump one of those once

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    60. Yoshitsugu Endo

      As I mentioned before, it would work for boaters as well. You can charge double if you put “Marine” on the description. Tell Stef this is definitely worth the bell ! ding ding ding ding !!! This will pay for many Starbucks coffee for Stef, and a servant to get it for her ! I forgot to tell Stef I am left handed too, and still an inch taller ! Tell her to stop saying she is 5’6″, so I can stop telling everyone she isn’t !

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    61. Karen

      James, we were ruling out RVs with cassette altogether….but this opens a whole new possiblity. I would 100 percent buy this. Now all we need is the RV…lol…we will get there. Good luck and please keep up your excellent work and channel. Fit RV advice is SO helpful.

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    62. Bill Strong

      James, you definitely have a winner. I hope you’re talking to Thetford and Camco about this. They will want in on this a big way. I guess this proves that smart RVing is rocket science after all.

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    63. Clement

      I don’t have cassette toilet but if I do, I would certainly get your adapter as an extra way to dump.

      Incidentally some campgrounds I went to recently were catching onto what ppl have been doing and had signs on the vault/pit toilet door saying: “No dumping.”

      On a truck camper, I would think a cassette toilet is ok given space is premium. Other than that, cassette toilet in the Class B/C/TT, would be a deal breaker for me (I have a Lance 1575.)

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      1. James - Post author

        That’s something I’ve wondered about. If and when campgrounds and other places would start preventing people from dumping in their pit and vault toilets.
        This would solve that problem, as you could easily and cleanly dump into any RV dump.

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        1. Will

          If anybody ever prevented me from dumping my cassette into a USFS/BLM pit toilet, we’d have a serious discussion about the source of the, um, dump material.

          And funny story. We were at a small music festival in Wyoming. There was overnight camping. Before dawn on the third day I walked over to one of the porta potties, stepped in, then dumped my cassette in one giant four gallon WHOOSH! Little did I know someone was in the portta potty next to mine. They yelled out OH MY GOD! and bolted from their throne.

          True story.

    64. Dave Fox

      James,
      The Americanizer is simply Brilliant !!! Though my current RV is not the cassette variety. WE will definitely contact you to buy one when we change to cassette.

      Best wishes, Dave

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    65. Roads of Life

      We are looking at an Embassy RV, and one of the options is toilet types (Dry Flush, Composting, Cassette). The Laveo Dry Flush is too expensive in the long run, and Cassette toilets are messy and smelly, so we have been pretty much set on an Air Head Composting toilet.
      But now with this adapter, we are reconsidering the idea of a cassette. I like those because I don’t have to prep anything as I would with a composting toilet and if it ever got damaged somehow, it is easily replaced.
      To be honest, it is going to be a long time before we order and have the RV built, so we wouldn’t be current customers, but in time… in time!
      Great idea! Be seeing you!

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    66. Martha

      This is great! Because of this we would consider the EKKO. Without it, nope! We just got our Travato so won’t be buying the EKKO right away, or needing the adaptor right away either. If we trade to an RV with a cassette we will want one of these adaptors.

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    67. Martie

      Great idea James. However, I have a Hymer Aktiv 2.0 with a cassette toilet and a non-detachable grey tank hose. 1 – I have no problem dealing with the emptying of the cassette in a toilet or a hole in the ground (as long as it is raised up a bit!) 2 – Having to deal with an extra hose would cause me more grief than anything else. I guess the hose you use to attach your Americanizer to could be shorter, if it is only used to dump the cassette. Would I use it? yes maybe although I am not thrilled about having to carry extra supplies (yucky ones too!) I am in Canada so availability and price would also have to be considered.

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      1. James - Post author

        True, the Hymers are sort of unusual animals with the non-detachable grey tank hose. For all the Winnebago models, for example, there is a traditional grey tank – so those owners already have the hose and a supply of rinse water in their grey tank.

        For the Hymer rigs, I think the best bet would be to carry a small sewer hose, and then drain your grey tank into the cassette to rinse it out. I don’t have a Hymer myself to experiment on, so this is all just thought experiments for now.

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        1. Matt

          I second that with a hymer I would not want to carry around an additional hose. Anecdotally we have never had any issues dumping our cadette in the hole in the ground, we just make sure to press the air vent button after it’s already lined up.

    68. Frances Lake

      31 January 2021
      James, Fabulous idea. Yes, I would be interested in purchasing one of these gadgets.
      Frances Lake
      Campbell River, BC Canada

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    69. JohnJoe

      If I wanted to use a hose then i would buy a Class B with a Black tank. Then I do not have to worry about any attachments or even a Cassette Toilet. I give you credit for trying to think of something to get around the dumping issue but just get a class B with a black and grey tank. Also, I could make the Americanizer on my own with $2 or 3 $ parts.

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    70. Metro

      Hi James,
      We are also interested in the EKKO.
      We have never owned an RV with a cassette toilet but if we did the Americanizer would be high up on our the shopping list.

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    71. Diane H

      Wow I have been turned off to any vehicle with a cassette toilet. This is brilliant. Really interested. It totally expands vehicles we can consider.

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    72. Teresa

      Great idea, James! Actually, my husband was surprised that an adapter such as this didn’t already exist. Good job putting that 3D printer to use.

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    73. Purchase Feather

      Why don’t you go for a Cinderella toilet? Incinerate waste and just dispose of the ash. You could boon-dock, (wild camp) for as long as you had water particularly if you could reuse the washing water after filtration as demonstrated in the B Box RV? You’re right here in the UK we are set up for cassette toilets as most RV’s have these although the Swedish manufacturer Kabe has the Cinderella’s as an option I believe.

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      1. Ian Furqueron

        Seems like a really cool concept. Looking at the website it does seem to have some benefits. The cost, however – wow. Looks to be over $4300 USD if I’m converting from Swedish currency correctly. Still… the benefits almost make me willing to consider having propane. Almost.

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        1. James - Post author

          Whew. For a second I thought you were referring to the cost of the adapter!
          (If someone wanted to pay me $4300 for an adapter, I’d certainly sell them one though…)

    74. Michael Yates

      Great idea, but did you use the Americanizer as an excuse to buy a new toy, I mean tool? Did you use a 3D printer or go hole hog and buy a large CNC machine? Both would look great in your shop.

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      1. James - Post author

        Well, I did buy th3 3D printer.
        I’ve started asking for a CNC router (but the one I want would be mostly for wood parts).

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      1. James - Post author

        Got a link for a specific one? I could try to order some parts and try it out.
        The ones I’m seeing do have a much shorter spout. My original prototype would probably work – but you’d lose some of the benefits.

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        1. James - Post author

          Yikes. That’s a really short spout. It would take a “super-short” adapter to make that work. And even then, I’m not sure.

        2. Tom Hallberg

          For the short spout, you just need to modify your design slightly. Move the knurled grips toward the center and add another set of 4 posts at the other end. You would lose the benefit of not having effluent run through the adapter, but you would gain the ability to flip it around if needed for short spout cassettes.

          Overall, I think it is a really cool idea and good looking design. However, cassette toilets are low on my list of waste disposal options. I would put a composting toilet above them. So I am not a likely buyer. Looks like a lot of the comments are from non-cassette owners as well. You should fire up the 3D printer and make about 25 units to send out to some real cassette toilet users. Hopefully, ones that have a good social media following. Then you will find out quickly how many potential buyers there are.

    75. James Arlen

      Shut up and take my money!!!!

      Hymer Aktiv w/ thetford cassette here.

      Finding a short (~3ft) 3” bayonet hose would be an epic solution.

      I’d even be willing to pay a license fee for the STL file so I could print it myself.

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    76. Martin Currie

      James! You have to make this happen! We have a new Solis coming and would love to dump the cassette just like we have our last regular RV’s .Your our only hope!.

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      1. James - Post author

        Well, in just a couple hours we’ve had over 350 people sign up on the sign up form. So things are looking good.

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    77. Ken

      Great idea but whole purpose of cassette is so you don’t carry the hose. I would be interested in shortest possible hose to save space, say 18” to the dump drain and the adapter. Sign me up for V2 with short hose.

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        1. Tj

          Being able to leave the adapter attached to the short hose and then have a cap for the adapter would be great…

        2. Roscoe Lando

          The real money and easiest thing is to licence this and collect royalties. But as you are an ex rocket scientist I’m sure this is on your horizon…….but it would be fun to see you sell a poop adapter on shark tank. Maybe team up with the perfect candidate in…mr wonderful specializes in license deals

        3. James - Post author

          Licensing would certainly be the easiest, and probably quickest, way to get this out to everyone.

    78. Terence Lucius

      Just brilliant, James! Count us in! We have a cassette toilet and really like it for the flexibility. The Americanizer is an ingenious addition.

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      1. James - Post author

        Good to hear from current users. It sounds like you’ve made peace with your cassette, but still see the value in the flexibility. Thank you!

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    79. Rich Stevenson

      Excellent idea! We just pee in our Solis cassette and stay mostly in campgrounds with dump stations, but would definitely use the adapter. It can be tricky just dumping liquids from the cassette into the drain hole at the dump station.

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    80. Kellie Thorne

      Great idea! My full cassette is way too heavy for me to carry, maneuver, and hold over a tiny sewer outlet, so I’ve switched to a plastic bag and gel system. But if I was still using one I’d definitely buy it if it was reasonably priced.

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    81. Lisa Deutsch Harrigan

      Makes me not afraid of a cassette toilet option. It would then be a true Dump Anywhere Legal system, because in America, dump stations are the usual option, and as noted, not practical for cassette toilets.
      Now we just need more RV builders in America to use cassette toilets in their RVs. I do think they are more practical.
      Very cleaver engineering on your part.

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    82. Amy Delpiere

      Yes. I like it! Another option, especially for those already at a dump station with a gray tank to empty. We currently have a black tank, but looking ahead to our next rig a cassette toilet is an asset in my mind because of the flexibility.

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    83. Erin O'Neill

      Brilliant!

      Just to clarify, is the adapter mostly to use at a dump station where most folks dump their black tank (ie wait in line and pay for this)? Or do you see it being used to assist in dumping anywhere (pit toilet) and it will simply be a better experience due to having a hose and the law of distance between cassette and nose? Still waiting on my rig so haven’t had the pleasure of dumping yet.

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      1. James - Post author

        I envisioned the adapter being used mostly at “regular RV dump sites”.
        There’s nothing that would prevent you from using it elsewhere, but it might be more trouble than you’d want in a home toilet or outhouse.

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    84. Karl Stock

      As a motorhomer for a long time in the Uk, where we only have cassette toilets really , i think you should really try emptying it with some solids & toilet paper!!!! That’s a long way down that hose for the content to go.

      I think the idea is really good but the hose is way too long.

      Just an opinion, i wish you well with the product..

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      1. James - Post author

        Thanks, Karl. That was sort of a long-ish hose, I agree. Just the first one I grabbed.

        Most RVers over here are pretty well used to dumping toilet waste through one of these hoses. This has an advantage over a “regular” black tank in that you can pick the cassette up to get a better slope on the hose.

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    85. Mike

      Hi James, cool thing. Even for us here in Europe….having the ability to attach reasonable hose to it when dumping somewhere.
      Once this thing is availabe think of shipping to Switzerland.

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      1. James - Post author

        Cool! I had thought that Europeans shipping their RVs to the US might be interested. Didn’t imagine that they would be useful in Europe itself. Good to know!

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    86. Alex

      I think this is a great idea, and I appreciate the elegance or it both as an engineer and an RVer. I have an integrated black tank now, but hope to buy an ekko in about 2-4 years, and would definitely buy the AmeriCANizer. Now just come up with an adapter for a home toilet dump!

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    87. Alana Alexander

      Love the Americinizer..makes the cassette an option now. It needz a snap on lid..so it can be left on the cassette..already got nubs to lock on too.

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      1. James - Post author

        I thought about leaving it attached. The clearance between the spout and the cassette case is too narrow to leave it attached. I even tried my smaller version and that didn’t work either.

        The other thing is that I am planning on installing a SOG system (another brilliant cassette add-on). That requires the regular cap be left on anyways.

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    88. Ian Furqueron

      I’m still in the planning mode, but I had been leaning towards a black tank under my van. But this could change my mind, so definitely interested in one.

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        1. Ian Furqueron

          Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking. Although one consideration is a black tank toilet is generally smaller than cassette toilets and my van will already have a pretty small wet bath.

    89. Chip Johns

      Creative and great idea. I’m interested. Currently fitting out a new van and will be using a cassette toilet. If you make it, I will buy it.
      Thanks

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    90. Andrew

      Brilliant. Don’t have a cassette toilet but your video about them makes me hesitate from getting an RV with a cassette toilet. Wondering if you could leave it attached to cassette when putting back in the rig with another cap over the end of the Americanizer? I suppose their are these caps already made. Feeling left out with name as I am from Canada. Great work. Keep it up.

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      1. James - Post author

        This adapter actually won’t fit when you try to fold the spout back in.
        That’s OK, as I have another cassette in mind (the SOG system) that requires the regular cap.

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      1. Amy

        I’d love to be a tester for it! I’m planning a camping trip this late summer/fall to take my sis to some buck list places. She doesn’t want a big camper so I’m looking for a pop-up that has a cassette toilet. That would be great to help us out. Can you make something (a stand ?) To help hold the tank upside down so if you’re weak you’re not trying to carry so much weight?

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    91. Daniel Leonard

      I think this is an awesome idea. I have never had an RV with a cassette and have not been keen on the idea of one, having seen videos like yours of people dumping them. This simple item would make it much easier. If I had a cassette or consider buying an RV with one in the future this would be a no brainer. I’m pretty sure the response will be overwhelmingly positive to this and I wouldn’t be surprised if someone like camco contacts you about marketing it.

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      1. James - Post author

        The thought of licensing it for manufacturing has crossed my mind. Sure would be quicker than me going it alone.
        I’ve got a stronger case to take to Thetford/Camco if I can demonstrate that the demand exists.

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        1. Michael

          I love the concept and the idea. I’d love to get my hands on one yesterday. Do you have any type of a window as to when they might become available if at all?

        2. James - Post author

          They will be available. Likely by summer.
          We’re beta testing now, and I’m working out distribution.

    92. Terriann J. Ma

      Brilliant! Absolutely brilliant! I have signed up for one and will be telling others. My only feedback is I would like a different color option other than black. It’s a color that you can easily miss, or miss place, especially when dumping your tanks in the dark with a dark background like dirt

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    93. Cynthia

      I think this is brilliant. We do not have a cassette toilet but I would buy this in the case that we might have one in the future.

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    94. Russ Elias

      I think this is a great idea! Just recent purchases a pop up with a cassette toilet and think this would be a great unit. Definitely interested!

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